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« on: June 08, 2007, 03:37:34 AM »

I dont know what the heck are those people think they are doin? Even some university teachers pronounce computer as "Compurer" clearly. I just want to know what kind of mistake they are making? What do you guys think?
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2007, 04:30:32 AM »

That's really a big mistake that those people are transmitting to other people as they are the next generation of learners.

I wish they would switched to the correct pronunciation and not to confuse to the society around.

They have gone beyond the native tongue. 
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2007, 04:47:35 AM »

I really want to educate them...  Angry but i cant, im not a qualified teacher.  Sad
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2007, 07:15:54 PM »

yes, you can hmmm i think almost the teachers at NUM pronounce it wrong
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2007, 09:51:34 PM »

NUM teachers? can you name them?
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2007, 02:22:27 AM »

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I dont know what the heck are those people think they are doin? Even some university teachers pronounce computer as "Compurer" clearly. I just want to know what kind of mistake they are making? What do you guys think?

Hello Everybody,

In fact, English we use every day is influenced mostly by American English (AmE) and British English (BrE). So then you can notice that one word in English has two vocabularies for it, for example like the word "car" & "automobile". Both AmE and BrE influence the way structures are formed...AmE is often short and precise whereas BrE is longer, more polite and clearer. For example, Could you help me with this? (BrE)...Help me with this (AmE). However, these can take a shift but mostly Americans prefer to save their time and they like saying short words to make you understand. So in this case, AmE and BrE even have an impact on pronunication.
Ex: Water (wa-ter) - BrE
     Water (wa-rer) - AmE
     Computer (com-pu-ter) BrE)
     Computer (com-pu-rer) AmE

It's hard to cover everything, but we know on the basis of a particular rule of pronunciation of AmE that when there is a consonant between two vowels for example computer.

What do you think? Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2007, 12:19:33 AM »

So i've one q here can you list me some more of the pronounciation between BrE and AmE like "waiter, later, and some more word" but ya know some peole like to pronounce it all in "R" not "T" IDK too but even like emm like oh man i forgot the word but they do change from anything with "T" to "R" like computer to compurer OMG it's so strange ya know.

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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2007, 02:19:34 AM »

I dont know what the heck are those people think they are doin? Even some university teachers pronounce computer as "Compurer" clearly. I just want to know what kind of mistake they are making? What do you guys think?

Sure, they sound lame. It's not "compurer". It's "computer" both American and British. But for American, when they speak a little fast, the roof of the mouth hardly touches the tongue, so the pronunciation is a little bit altered, but it doesn't become "compurer" (the same thing with "bottle" or "letter".)
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2007, 03:07:54 AM »

Aw... hmm (what else can i call you for short), you are my good partner.
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2007, 05:16:40 PM »

Aw... hmm (what else can i call you for short), you are my good partner.

Thank you.
Now that you're on my side, I don't mind being you're partner. Grin
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2007, 05:50:26 PM »

When T sound is in the middle of a word it become D sound.

Ex: Water --> Wader
     Computer --> Compuder
     Letter  -->  Ledder

Usually there are four basic rules in American T:

T is T, T is D, T is Silent and T is Held
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2007, 08:35:14 PM »

I agree with Loren about the /t/ becoming /d/, though I would also add that this does also happen in British English, though it is more common in American English. 

Also, the /t/ is sometimes missed (the glottal stop) in some British English dialects, making it "compu'er", especially in London.  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2007, 09:04:50 PM »

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When T sound is in the middle of a word it becomes D sound.

Ex: Water --> Wader
     Computer --> Compuder
     Letter  -->  Ledder

Usually there are four basic rules in American T:

T is T, T is D, T is Silent and T is Held

Thanks, Loren,  Grin about the basic rules of American English. In my ears, Smiley T sounds like R but not straight R, but ahh, in fact, T becomes D sound.

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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2007, 02:48:14 AM »

Cool now i know one more sound oh sorry 4 more basics sound for T but so there's no R sound right or they don't count them also ya know s.t i heard foreigner said "berrer" for "better" too but i notice that it's only apply on the double T word not all even single T word what you think?

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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2007, 03:32:45 AM »

Wow, thank you everyone, i really gain alot of knowledge for home study tonight.

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