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[vann lyda]

Hi! everybody.

Today, I would like to discuss about the social problem especially relates to children. The topic is<<Children is irresponsible with spending money>> discuss together.

Hope to get more ideas.
Best wish.
From Lyda.

[Paul Brown (MA CELTA)]

Hey Lyda,  

 I know when I was young, I was also kind of irresponsible with money. That is to be accepted I think, in my view it is only when you are actually earning money that you can really appreciate the value of it. In this way, if you are earning you own money, you would be more careful when you spend it and would be less likely to waste it.

  In England, most teenagers are encouraged to take a part-time job and this job then provides them a small salary for them to support themselves. This teenage part-time work usually takes the form of a newspaper round, where you deliver newspapers from house to house, or a milk round, where you deliver milk from house to house. When I was a teenager, I did a newspaper round every morning before I went to school, and when I got my salary I was very careful with how I spent it, this was because i knew how hard I had worked to get it.

 Maybe other Cambodian students could share their views on this topic, as I know it is hard to get a job in Cambodia and so maybe it is not so easy for teenagers to earn their own money!

 have fun,  :wink:

 Paul

[Kimlong]

Hi Paul and Lida!!

I strongly support yer topic indeed, Lyda!. we youths not only have the obligation to study, but also have the responsibility to care of our society.

And in the very short future, I am either willing to post some topics which relates to the social issues. But I doubt whether anyone like to talk about it or not.

Anyway, I'm going to share some notions on yours next time.


Cheerio!!

Kimlong

[Suy Prasoeur]

Hi Kanha Lyda,


Actually, it is just like what Paul has pionted out that the children don't really know how hard it is to earn a cent but they do know how happy to spend it. :lol:  Tell ya the truth, I may be one of them :lol: .

On the other hand, some children in Cambodia, especially the poor, ain't act in the same way, because they start their jobs at an age which is not possible to have one for they have no chioce. This is a really important thing on which the government should pay more attention. That's it. I don't want to go further.

Please share more everyone,
Prasoeur

[vann lyda]

Dear all,

Actually, this topic is really really interesting. Right? Paul, thanks for your ideas and your won story about spending money when you were young. I am also a mean girl. But sometime I do spend alot on de useless things such as: girl things. Ok, Thanks you for talking about this wonderful topic!!. Hope to get more experience Paul! and de other two.

I will post any interesting problem in our society to discuss in this site.
Best wish from Lyda.

[Keo Somala]

Hi Lyda and everybody here,

I'm sure it's something that each child has faced. "Children are irresponsible with spending money." I really appreciate Paul's own life. It sounds really wonderful to me. ?n Cambodia, of course, it's not easy to find a job. When children are not able to earn money themselves, the thing they should do is spending money that is given with care. When they can find a small job to do, it's then time for them to understand even far better how hard it is to earn money and what a wise way to spend money.

Spend money for something that is needed and wanted. Children can be taught to learn how to spend money. Real life and what parents should say to them can teach them how!

Thanks

[jupiter]

Hi all,

In my book, The one who is irresponsible with spending money is parents, not children. If your parents don't give you much money, how could you waste it? I advocate Prasoeur's idea, that is, the poor has no choice to spend money carelessly.

Jupiter

[Chesda]

Hello Lyda and all,

I am very happy to see your post about the resposibilities of the children for their money spending. It is quit difficult to make most of the children responsible for their money spending. As other members in the forum have mentioned that it is difficult for the children to take care of their spending because he/she doesn't know how hard it is to find the income for the family.

Accually, I am also one of them. I just know how to spend money, but doesn't know how to find it.

It is also my excuse for that is now I can't earn the money, but I will when I am able to work. As in Cambodia it is difficult to find part time jobs with unskill employee like me an some other children.

Thank you Lyda that you raise this Very Good Topic. I can have some more ideas to put in my plan of helping those unfortunate kids.

Chesda :!:

[Kimlong]

Hi Paul and y'all here!!!

It is a matters of happiness that i have read and get some notions from ye.

I am another one who is extremely aware of the difficulty of the parents in earning or finding money. Yet, I can help them nowt, I just stand and look behind them and hopefully that one day I will be able to give them my gratitude.  


Jupi, I do complain of yer words! thou said " The one who is irresponsible with spending money is parents, not children".

Jupi, how parents know what their children do if their children are at PP and they are at province!!

Some children are now taking their lives for granted. They are happy with the compempary equipments, with the civilization of the city or esp. with state-of-the art of love which each of which is accustomed to the environment of the teenagers' life;accordingly, they spend their-parents-giving money haphazardly.

Some also try hard to help their parents reduce the heaviness of their parens' duties by finding a part-time job.


For me I am strongly at the back of Mala!

The best thing children should do is spending the-parents-giving money with absolutely care.

Just ideas!!

Hav funssss!

Kimlong

[jupiter]

Hi all, esp. Kimlong,

Thanks for your feedback, I really appreciate your idea here (I just stand and look behind them and hopefully that one day I will be able to give them my gratitude) Your idea is brilliant!

Yet, I would support my point that parents are the one who carelessly waste their money given to their children. I expect you to say that parents are born to take care their children and help them unconditionally.

As you know, some parents are living with their children, some are not. The one who is not, as you wrote (how parents know what their children do if their children are at PP and they are at province!), don't know what's going on with their beloved children so that they just give the economical support so-called MONEY to their children without care or woth litte care.

Let's take a look at the rich (I don't say all of them, but most of them,I think). They are, in my personal opinion, really careless with the money offered to their children because they are not afraid of HUNGER or having nowt to chew, that is, nothing to fulfill their stomach. The just give, give and give the money to their children whenever they ask for it. As a result the children HAVE a golden apportunity to waste (I think spend is a better word) the given money without thinking of the near/midium/far future because when they are broked or run out of money, their parents WILL and WILL give it more and more to them.

Let's take another look to the poor [esp. the one who is living under poverty line (earn less than US$1 per day)] Does the much-loved children have a great chance to spend their money? I think they DON'T, neither a great chance, nor a chance. They have nothing to say about the very little money they spend. Why don't they waste money as the others do???

They can't follow the rich children's footstep because their parents CANNOT follow the rich parents' footstep either. Why their parents don't waste money on them too??? The answer is that they spend money with MUCH care unlike the rich one, that's why their beloved sons or daughters spend money with care as well.

In a nutshell, I re-agian (not sure whether this word is correct or not) say that the children won't waste any money, if their parents won't waste it on them either. That means they(children) will spend money with much greater care if their parents are responsible (NOT spend carelessly) for the given money.

Thanks for reading my not-too-long post.

Jupiter

[Suy Prasoeur]

Hey Jupiter, Kimlong and all here,


Have you guys noticed that, your writings seem to be more wonderful when those all are made in opposite opinion or arguing way?  :wink:


Prasoeur

[Kimlong]

Hi y'all here!

Oh great Jupi for yer reaction. Albiet this world would be destroyed or our sky were fallen, I still strongly support my claim above till I have no air to breath.

Jupi, I dare compare we children ( NOT ALL)  to CHUNG and parents to KOK. I optimistically believe that you remember the saying " KOK ARCH PHLECH CHUNG TE CHUNG MEN DEL PHLECH KOK TE".

You said " I expect you to say that parents are born to take care their children and help them unconditionally" But please remeber that the most important thing  they, parents, have to do is to earn or make profit to support family, rite?  I mean that they have very less time to take control of their chidren spending money  in the even that their children want to cheat them).

For instance, parents spend money seriously carefully and always give their children 5,000R each per day( to whom lives with parents). And that money is only spend on food.

Unfortunately, the cheating-parents-children ask some money to buy teachers' lesson, books, or any studied materials and so on. And sometimes they say their motor doesn't word, or their need money so as to buy present for any party, to buy some clothes... oh many, many, many reasons for those who want to do that. HOW DO PARENTS OBSERVE THOSE SMALL THINGS?

For you Jupi, if your children ask you some money to buy presents for their friends' birthday, WHAT SHALL YOU DO? or your children need new clothes to join those parties and you have ample money, mean you are not poor, WHAT SHOULD YOU DO? or you just stand and ask them ins and outs about that small things.


If thou art a parent, how much time thou expect to pay for behold your each children.

Ultimately, I still say ONLY CHILDREN THEIRSELVE( 80% or thereabouts) who can deduct the waste-spending-money.

Have funssssssssssss!

Kimlong

PS: Thanks Prasoeur for your interestin'
Kin

[jupiter]

Hi Kimlong  

I hitherto admit that I know you SLIGHTLY. I wish I would know you more than that.

I really appreciate your stance on this topic (Albiet this world would be destroyed or our sky were fallen, I still strongly support my claim above till I have no air to breath.) Of course, I will never forget that famous adage and I consent to your point that parents have no time to observe their children's small activities.

YET, I dare say that those who don't care about any small activity of their children are careless. Being a parent is not an effortless job, we have to think ahead of time and imagine what is going to be happened in the near and far future. That is why we should pay attention to our children eveytime without thinking about their activities.

If parents think that they are so BUSY, they have no time to take care their offspring, I think that those parents are thinking in a wrong way. WHY? Because they are teaching their children to be careless. As a result, their children spend money wothout much care.

You wrote

For you Jupi, if your children ask you some money to buy presents for their friends' birthday, WHAT SHALL YOU DO? or your children need new clothes to join those parties and you have ample money, mean you are not poor, WHAT SHOULD YOU DO? or you just stand and ask them ins and outs about that small things.

Well, I would give them ENOUGH (not TOO enough) money for their need. What do they need? They need clothes, presents, etc. I will offer a sum of money which is suitable for the price of those things. And I would think about the reason they tell me, whether it is reasonable or not? I won't give them a golden chance to waste money carelessly.

You wrote

Ultimately, I still say ONLY CHILDREN THEMSELVES( 80% or thereabouts) who can deduct the waste-spending-money.

I think that hildren won't waste any money, if their parents give them money with much care. How could children waste money, if their parents offer them only enough money for their special need?

Will be right back

Jupiter

[keokalyan]

dear all here,

i am  very interested in dis topic! well.. jupi and kimlong, now let me tell u. jupiter, u're rite! when we need $$$ to buy presents for friends' birthdays or to pay for de party... dat's de point! good solving jupi.. but for me, now i am meeting dis situation, (ma parents give me only enough money for my everyday study, not for extra things) and today is my frns birthday  but i am not dare to ask mum or dad for $$$ to buy sth for my frns at all.. wat d'ya think?

anyway, hope when u become a parent for ya kids, pls be gentle, giv them enough money for things they need, cuz we used to be young, so ve should understand de needs..

pye pye,

kalyan

[jupiter]

Hi keokalyan  

Thanks for your involvement.
I think I can't help you in any way because it's your personal issue. But remember that nothing we can't do, so getting money from our parents is not impossible.

I suggest you should tell your parents the reason why you want an extra sum of money. Tell them that your best friend is going to celebrate his/her birthday and you can't join it with nothing in hand. Hopefully, your parents (I think every parents) will understand your need. As a result you will get some $s or Rs.

You wrote

anyway, hope when u become a parent for ya kids, pls be gentle, giv them enough money for things they need, cuz we used to be young, so ve should understand de needs..

Of course we used to be a child, so we should understand our children's need. Yet, do you ever wonder that our parents used to be children too, but why do they not understand our needs? Perhaps, we don't understand our parents' need either.

All in all, it is a generation gap.

Adieu

Jupiter